Hi,
I am really tensed up with my fate as my occupation (Community Worker) has dropped from the new SOL list. Though DIAC says that this change will not affect to existing applicants. But I hardly believe to DIAC as they can say anytime that those occupations are not in new SOL list will be ceased just like what they did with pre-2007 applicants. Moreover there is a rumor that new point system and new pass mark may be revealed. If so, DIAC further can say that your application do not meet new pass mark so you people are fired!!!

Hope for the best
Zaman

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Dear Zaman,

I am in the same category,and still waiting for a response.I dont know what will happen with us.
as far as I know our application is still under consideration.

lets pray together
Munira
Bangladesh
Thank you Lisa for your comments. Yes indeed, time is now to pray together as Munira says. Actually we can do nothing only but pray.

Regards
Zaman
Hey again!

It is with much intrigue I have come to learn about the ways of the force, in this case, DIAC!

I've pretty much rolled with their changes, mainly because my occupation is still within the CSL / SOL and I have read on the DIAC website consistently, that existing applications will continued to be processed as normal...

However, what I have started to appreciate, is the confusion the DIAC is causing for those who are affected by the upcoming SOL changes. The confusion is thus: Applicant A applied with a non-CSL occupation, in April 2010. The SOL now shows their occupation, therefore it is likely that applicants of this occupation made in July will be processed quicker than before.

Question: Come July, will applicant A be processed under existing timeframes (say 3 years) or under the new, yet to be disclosed, SOL timelines (perhaps 1 year)?

If the former, then should Applicant A re-apply in July (at a possible heavy cost) to save 2 years?

And logically following from this, if the existing application is then processed under the new SOL timeframe (Applicant A becomes happy), is this retograded, for applicants like Zaman, who would then be processed under a non-CSL timeframe (Zaman becomes very unhappy!).

Given that the DIAC said it will process applicants using the existing rules set out at time of application, and based on their refund policy, I predict a lot of applicants who are now on the SOL will probably have a hard choice to make of either waiting for the existing application to go through, or face the cost of withdrawing their initial application and making a new application under the new SOL code, paying the full fee again (I can't believe DIAC will offer an amnesty / refund for such applications based on their existing payment model!)

This is truly speculation, but just to say I've come to understand better, the confusion DIAC is creating!

NZ anyone ;-)
I've been re-reading the automated response email you get when you send a blank email to "aspc.processing@immi.gov.au"

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The Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator Chris Evans, has set new processing priorities for certain skilled migration visa applications.

The direction came into effect on 8 February 2010 and applies to new applications lodged on or after 8 February 2010, and those already lodged or in the final stages of processing, and replaces the previous Priority Processing Direction (No. 42) which commenced on 23 September 2009.
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What interests me, is the sentence I have italicised. It mentions that priority processing affects even those already lodged! I have no idea if this incorrect, but it shows evidence that new changes can be retrospective. Though this probably only puts more wood on the fire of apprehension for applicants concerned about the new SOL!

Anyone know, as an existing applicant, if the Direction 45 (February 8th changes) changed their priority processing? Would they have been informed even if so?

Just more riddles and clues to the DIAC methodology

Sky

addendum:

I just got the latest processing times email. It states (bold / italics added by me):-

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MINISTER'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEW SKILLED OCCUPATION LIST – 17 May 2010

On 17 May 2010, the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator
Chris Evans, announced the list of occupations included in the new Skilled
Occupation List (SOL). It is intended that the new SOL will come into
effect from 1 July 2010. Applications lodged prior to the implementation
of the new SOL will not be affected.


Further information about this announcement can be found on our website.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/whats-new.htm

TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF CERTAIN GENERAL SKILLED MIGRATION (GSM)
APPLICATIONS – 7 MAY 2010


The Australian Government has decided to temporarily suspend the
acceptance of certain General Skilled Migration (GSM) visa applications.
This temporary measure will begin on 8 May 2010 and is expected to remain
in effect until the end of 30 June 2010.


The temporary suspension applies only to primary (main) applicants for the
following visa subclasses:

Subclass 175 – Skilled Independent (Migrant) visa
Subclass 176 – Skilled Sponsored (Migrant) visa
Subclass 475 – Skilled Regional Sponsored (Provisional) visa

If you have already submitted a valid application for one of the affected
subclasses prior to 08 May 2010, this change does not affect you. Your
application will be processed as normal and in accordance with priority
processing arrangements
.


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So it states "in accordance". I guess from this, that if the priority processing times change, it may affect current applications. However, I see no reason why the processing times should change given they changed only a few months ago...as a developer, too many changes means many more bugs!

I have a feeling however, these posts are probably just making things worse for people by being so speculative!

conclusion: right now, patience is a virtue!

xxx
Hi Syed,

It doesn't mean anything, just pure guess work. Yes, it could mean new applicants may be get processed faster, but then it may not...we just don't know!

One possible solution is if the accountant is now on SOL (and it was not on CSL), then you can then seek sponsorship come 1st July (if not delayed) which will increase your processing time.

On reflection, this may be the advised approach by the DIAC, it would certainly answer two problems -

1) existing 3 years applicants, now on SOL can be processed quicker, and
2) is targeting demand driven skills to seek sponsorship.

I think the migration agents know as much as we do (i.e. the DIAC has released limited information) in terms of how the new SOL changes will affect applicants, existing and new i.e. not much! From what I read, when the DIAC decided the stop new applicants from 8th May, not even the state governments in Australia knew about this, let alone the migration agents!

When news has been released, Susan has always posted the information on here before anyone else, so I'm sure once something's better known, we will be informed asap.

I know my posts don't offer any answers, but I hope they may offer some ideas that perhaps have not been thought about, which then leads to being more prepared when more information is revealed!

Regards

Sky
Hi Syed

You've raised some complex and very worthwhile issues in your post above.

Firstly, with regard to State sponsorship, DIAC has not yet made clear whether there will be any pathway for those existing State sponsored applicants, whose applications are included on the new State MIgration Plans, to move across and become State MIgration Plan applicants, which would put them in Priority 2.

If that's not possible, it has also not yet made clear whether such applicants will be able to put in a fresh application, under a State MIgration Plan, at no cost, as subclass 175 applicants can do now if they find an ENS sponsor, for example.

It has not yet indicated whether the criteria to meet the points test will change for independent or sponsored skilled migration.

It seems bizarre that someone who applies after 1 July will have their application processed in a shorter timeframe than someone who also meets the criteria but applied before these changes occurred; and hopefully DIAC has, for once, stopped rushing around making changes and thought about strategies to address their impact on existing applicants.

The situation is in such an indeterminate stage at the moment that DIAC has indicated to migration agents that it would be unwise to give any advice on skilled migration at this stage.

I would really like to be able to answer your questions, but until DIAC provides more information, no-one will be able to give you quality advice.

When DIAC finally starts to implement the new SOL on 1 July, hopefully it will, for once, have coordinated itself well enough to have also signed off on the State Migratiom Plans, developed the new points test, updated all its relevant application forms so applications can be lodged that day, and been strategic enough to develop mitigating strategies to address all the issues that the implementation of the new SOL and SMPs will invariably cause.

Syed, as soon as an official announcement is made, Lisa and I will be sure to let everyone know - until then, any comment I made would only be speculation.

Best regards
Susan
Hi
Because of the frequent changes in DIAC rules, current applicants fall into several categories.

1-Those who have applied before 23Sep 2009
2-Those who have applied between 23 Sep 2009 and 8 Feb 2010
3-Those who have applied between 8 Feb and 7 May 2010.
4-Those who will apply after 1 July 2010.

I think that it will be pretty confusing and unsystematic for DIAC to process each group according to the rules which apply to its own time. So, we should expect more shocking news from DIAC about a new set of retrospective processing rules.I think this is why they decided to cease receiving new applications.
This is just a speculation.
Hey Al,

From the questions I've read on multiple forums, "confusing and unsystematic" seems to be general modus operandi of the DIAC! ;-)

Ah well, we'll just have to wait and see...exciting times hey?!

Regards

Sky

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